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- These are the minutes from the Network Information Services
- Infrastructure (NISI) WG meeting of Monday, March 16.
-
- The Agenda consisted of:
-
- Announcements/Status Reports
- Information Discovery
- Next Project
-
- 1. Announcements/Status Reports
-
- The "Building a Network Information Services Infrastructure" document
- was issued as an FYI 12 in February.
-
- The document on "Privacy and Integrity Issues in NIC Databases" is now
- in draft form and will be reviewed by the volunteer authors.
- (Basically, all the authors had seen the outline, but not the draft at
- the time of the meeting.) Once they are satisfied, it will be sent to
- the whole NISI list for review and comments.
-
- 2. Info Discovery
-
- This was left from the last meeting. There was great interest in the
- question of, once we have information, how do we let users know it's
- there? Since the lats meeting, lots of other groups have also become
- interesting in this question (well, there were a lot of people
- interested long before the last meeting obviously). We decided that
- this was an implementation question beyond the scope of the NISI
- group. We would stay informed of the work of other groups and provide
- input from a user point of view to them. (After our group met, I
- attended the wais-X.500 BOF, which turned out to include many other
- "info servers." That group decided to form an official working group
- to work on matters related to allowing existing info services to
- interact. This is something to keep an eye on.)
-
- 3. Next NISI Project
-
- a. brainstorming
-
- We tossed around a few ideas for future projects, which I list here
- in no particular order. This was brainstorming, so don't ask
- for detailed descriptions of each idea.
-
- - service discovery (finding out what services are available on the Internet)
- - procedures for NICs to deposit information into the various info
- services
- - a "nethelp" utility that would give users fast, uniform info on
- what the Internet is and how to use it
- - a list of useful services to do
- - a list of services each site offers
- - a mailing list archive
- - a clarification of the core of info about the Internet that all
- Internet NICs should provide
- - tools to provide info
-
- Of these, we had the most interest in the lists of services and
- the "nethelp" (Martyne Hallgren must get credit for that coinage)
- service.
-
-
- b. list of services doc
-
- This doc will follow the IAFA recommendations and publish a list of
- the services available from that administrative subdomain (not
- necessarily just from that one site, but from the various service
- providers at that administrative entity). The list of services is
- something like a description of the various services and information
- on how to access them.
-
- This document may, in fact, overlap the Nethelp doc described
- next. It may have been another approach to the same information.
- I'm sure any overlap will come to light as work progresses on the
- docs. For now, let us think of this document as the description
- of the services that a nethelp tool could access (i.e. the tool
- could access these descriptions). The next document describes
- what we want the tool to look like (generically) and do.
-
- Peter Deutsch, Jake Feinler, John Clement, Cyndi Mills, and April
- volunteered to work on this document.
-
- A draft of this document is due by the next IETF meeting in July.
-
-
- c. Nethelp doc
-
- This doc is aimed at specifying the type of information a nethelp
- service would provide. A nethelp service is envisioned to be
- something a new user can very easily access that will orient him
- toward what the Internet is and where he can get more info about
- it. But what info should such a service provide? Here are some
- of the ideas that were tossed around:
-
- - network use etiquette and guidelines
- - new user guide fino
- - usage policy
- - info re the net
- - net access info
- - resources and services
- - answers to commonly asked questions (which we can glean from NICs)
- - who to call for help
-
- Other thoughs re this doc were should it have a standard interface or
- not (the vote was no, but an easy interface is necessary); it should
- include help for individual sites re what they can add/customize; it
- should address the fears a new user has about breaking stuff if he
- tries new things; it could be scalable and include hooks to add
- information that might benefit more experiences users as well, or
- include pointers to more detailed, technical info an different
- subjects. Specifying concrete ideas in this area might add to the
- momentum of getting funding to implement such a utility or help those
- with info servers to extend them to this use.
-
- Another idea regarding the interface was that it could start
- with standard questions, such as who-is, what-is, where-am-i,
- how, where-is, etc.
-
- Although the scope of the document was not fully defined in the
- meeting, it will concentrate on what information the NISI group would
- recommend that such a program contain, possibly even including
- explicit text, what services such a program should provide, and,
- generally speaking, what the program could look like. It will
- not necessarily cover implementation strategies, although those
- can be considered as well.
-
- Martyne Hallgren, Ellen Hoffman, Scott Williamson, Marsha Perrot,
- Tim Berners-Lee, Pat, and April will be working on this doc.
- Suggestions online are welcome!
-
- A draft of this document is due by the next IETF meeting in July.
-
-
- d. other
-
- There was another suggestion that came up amongst the nethelp
- discussion that is worth noting, although it is probably out of the
- scope of NISI (every time I say something like that, you can challenge
- it, of course). It was the suggestion that a controlled usage
- environment be created where users can test out their knowledge of how
- to use different Internet resources, such as FTP. It would be a
- closed environment in that it would not affect Internet use or
- operations, but would be realistic in that it would simulate the
- Internet environment. It might have slightly more user friendly error
- messages and more help/guidance in using the net. Such an environment
- could be used to allay fears new users have about using the net that
- cause them to experiment less than they might otherwise if they were
- confident they couldn't break anything. It would be especially useful
- for pre-college age users.
-
-
- Action Items:
-
- April and Pat to write new goals and milestones for the WG.
-
- Volunteers start working on the docs.
-
- WG to follow new goals and milestones. (We'll send them to the list.)
-